Fast forward to Roberts trip home on the Queen Mary
Robert,
Emily and Emily's sister Ethel Benn (Winnie?) plus perhaps Will Reed
(Emily's brother) came to the UK and visited both Natalie and also came
to Brentford to see my Mother, Elizabeth (Alisa Natalie Julian - also
known as Betty) and my Dad John, in their house in The Butts. I know I
was small and so was my brother William. The big surprise was the huge
car they came in with a running board. He said he had a chauffeur but
we think it may have been Will pretending. Robert wore a white suit and the 'chauffeur' had britches and an hexagonal peeked cap. My Auntie said it was a
Rolls Royce but all living relatives doubt this (including my Dad!).
However, we were taken on a ride on the running board which was great
and he also gave us money to go down the shop and buy sweets - which we
brought back so proudly. I remember a thrilling day of relatives.
Tuesday, 15 January 2013
Robert Swetozar
Great Uncle Bob
(Robert S) Papineau left England and went steerage to Canada. First he
got lodgings with a farmer in Manitoba and then managed to get a job on
the railway cutting through the Rockies. Finally on to a printing firm
and a top job after training and then when the Manager died, he began
his own business, printing newspapers. Later, one of his own sons was a
Canadian Mountie.
Sunday, 13 January 2013
Home to London for Elizabeth
Elizabeth Mary
- This photograph was taken in London by Window & Grove in Baker
Street (they were photographers to the Royal Family here). Did Natalija
suggest them?
I believe this is Elizabeth with one of her sons. Her daughter was born in UK.
I believe this is Elizabeth with one of her sons. Her daughter was born in UK.
Saturday, 12 January 2013
Naming the NATALIE girls
Natalija stated that she doubted she would have a girl child ever and Elizabeth was pregnant in 1884 and so she asked her to name her child after her in memory.
And then down our line....
We believe that she gave a pair of diamond drop earings and these were seen back in London in 58 Dangan Road in a velvet case but when Uncle Ross died, they had gone.
Auntie Vera said they were for Natalie and she said she did see them.
Now you see why there was Natalie and then Ailsa Elizabeth Natalie, then Julia Natalie and then Alice Natalie......... Rosa is also a Natalie ..... Martha - you could add in!!
Friday, 11 January 2013
Queen Natalie of Serbia
HM NATALIJA OBRENOVIC b. 1859, Florence as Natalia Keshko
This is Queen
Natalija and Elizabeth became friends with her. She married King Milan
Obernovic IV of Serbia in 1875 and they had a son called Alexander. She
was the Moldovian/Russian Duchess of Serbia 1875-1882 and the Queen of
Serbia 1882-1889. The King and Queen divorced in 1888 and then in 1889,
her former husband abdicated and she became regent for her son. Alex
married a lady-in-waiting Draga and the Queen was finally banished by
her son for opposing the match. But King Alex & Draga were killed
in a military coup in 1903 and Natalija became the sole heiress to the
Obrenovic dynasty. She coverted to Catholicism and spent her remaining
years as a nun in exile. She died in 1941 in St. Daniel in France and
her unpublished memoirs are kept at the Vatican.
King Milan had devoted great energy in his early reign to the improvement of communications and development of natural resources and this is when Rossall worked for him - I heard tell there was a bridge named Papineau - not the Canadian one but in Serbia.
King Milan had devoted great energy in his early reign to the improvement of communications and development of natural resources and this is when Rossall worked for him - I heard tell there was a bridge named Papineau - not the Canadian one but in Serbia.
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